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#1 2008-04-11 08:55:33
- sabreandspurs
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In the battle of Petraeus vs. the Pusillanimous Party of Prevarication, Perversion and Paganism, Petraeus comes out on top yet again:
Congressional Democrats: The Other Insurgents
By Michael Reagan
Friday, April 11, 2008
There must have been times when Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker thought they were back in embattled Sadr City when they faced Democrats on Capitol Hill this week -- no Iraqi insurgents or al Sadr militiamen could have been more hostile.
No wonder. The goals of the Democrats and both al Qaeda and al Sadr insurgents are the same: the defeat of the United States in the war in Iraq.
From the opening statement by Sen. Carl Levin -- a vitriolic tirade against the war -- to the less vehement but equally unfriendly statements by the Clinton woman and her rival for their party's presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, the Democrats made no secret of their burning desire to see the United States humiliated by a defeat in Iraq.
Clinton derided the obvious fact that a hasty withdrawal from Iraq would be dangerously irresponsible, and refused to admit that the surge is working: "I think it could be fair to say that it might well be irresponsible to continue the policy that has not produced the results that have been promised time and time again at such tremendous cost," she told Petraeus, blithely ignoring the continuing successes of his strategy.
Let's just get out and to hell with the consequences was the gist of what she said.
Obama defined success in Iraq as when "there's still corruption, but the country is struggling along, but it's not a threat to its neighbors and it's not an al-Qaeda base," while failing to recognize that the near-immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces would create a nightmare situation in the entire region.
As Jacob Laksin wrote in FrontPageMagazine.com on April 10 (Petraeus vs. The Party of Defeat): "In the end, neither Democratic candidate gave any indication that they understand the stakes in Iraq. Nor was there any evidence that they -- or anyone else in their party -- would be willing to make the necessary if unpopular decisions needed for success."
Laksin noted that Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman had described the Democrats' attitude this week as "hear no progress in Iraq, see no progress in Iraq, and most of all, speak of no progress in Iraq."
He could have added that his former party had reversed Gen. Douglas McArthur's declaration that there is no substitute for victory to read, "There is no substitute for your country's defeat when you want to win elections."
Although targeted from the outset, both Petraeus and Crocker managed manfully to withstand the often nasty implications inherent in the Democrats' questioning. Petraeus even treated Mrs. Clinton as if she were a lady, despite the fact that the last time he came to the Hill to talk about the situation in Iraq she all but called him a liar before his appearance.
Frankly, I don't know how he sat there being so respectful of these people, when they are doing everything in their power to undermine what he's doing. They are also giving hope, not to our troops, but to the enemy which is trying to kill them.
Sen. Jay Rockefeller helped to set the tone for his Democratic colleagues before the hearings when he accused his colleague, war hero Sen. John McCain, of what amounts to a war crime saying, "McCain was a fighter pilot who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet. He was long gone when they hit. What happened when they [the missiles] get to the ground? He doesn't know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues."
Sen. Rockefeller was forced to apologize to McCain. He didn't explain how he, as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, did not know that when John McCain was flying missions over North Vietnam there were no such things as laser guided missiles.
If we had listened to the defeatist Democrats there wouldn't be 175,000 trained Iraqi soldiers, 379,000 trained Iraqi police, 90,000 trained Sons of Iraq, and you wouldn't have Maliki, a Shia leader, sending his military into Basra to fight Shia militias.
Instead, al Sadr would be running Iraq with the help of Iran, and bin Laden would be using Iraq as a training base for al Qaeda.
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#2 2008-04-11 09:10:15
- Hollis
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The thing I really dislike about partisan politics is that the only thing is seems to be good at is dividing Americans. D's do it and so does R's and others, but, IHMO they are all wrong.
If you notice Michael Reagan's title is more exclusive than yours. He limits the class of Demoncrats to a specific group, yours basically says all Democrats.
last time I noticed there are both Rs and Ds who are currently serving in the US military. None are excluded from job assignment based on party affiliation.
I guess by now you can see with this leads. I don't necessary disagree with Michaels Reagans title, but I do disagree with yours.
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#3 2008-04-11 18:48:45
- iridium192
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All I can say is if the demofarts are elected, al Qaeda will be in our back yards. And the sh*t will really hit the fan.
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War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over.
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#4 2008-04-11 19:10:45
- sabreandspurs
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Hollis wrote:
The thing I really dislike about partisan politics is that the only thing is seems to be good at is dividing Americans. D's do it and so does R's and others, but, IHMO they are all wrong.
...I don't necessary disagree with Michaels Reagans title, but I do disagree with yours.
Disagree if you like; that's your privilege. I expressed my opinion, and I'll stand by it; that's my privilege. Bottom line is, though, there are two main political parties in this country, and these two parties are both represented in the U.S. Congress. One party is doing its dead level best to bring about the military defeat and humiliation of this nation, and the other is (albeit half-heartedly) working to achieve victory over our enemies. I leave it up to you do figure out which is which.
I chose the title of this thread in the interests of brevity. I am fully aware that there are people of both party affiliations serving in the military. If I didn't make this clear before, I'll attempt to do so now. I was not referring to anyone serving in the Armed Forces.
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#5 2008-04-12 10:35:39
- illnatguard8989
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iridium192 wrote:
All I can say is if the demofarts are elected, al Qaeda will be in our back yards. And the sh*t will really hit the fan.
I dont wanna vote republican but as much as I dislike all choices, I would much rather have an aggressive pres. then a pasifist
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