This is BS...

Kate Wilder (Virginia)
Veteran, Female Green Beret

I was understanding that no females can be in combat  or SF.

how is this person a SF soldier?

Hollis wrote:

Among many Politicans the belief is; "It is not a lie when I do it."

or a sin...


but how could she have been awarded the green beret?  how can she claim to have it?

JPW wrote:

This is BS...

Kate Wilder (Virginia)
Veteran, Female Green Beret

I was understanding that no females can be in combat  or SF.

how is this person a SF soldier?

Maybe you should have looked her up before running away once again.

Kate served our country with distinction, retiring from the U.S. Army as a Lieutenant Colonel and settling down in Northern Virginia.
While in the Army, Kate broke down barriers, overcame abuse and harrassment to become the first woman Green Beret in Army history. Just to put this in perspective, President Kennedy once said "the green beret is a symbol of excellence, a badge of courage, and a mark of distiction in the fight for freedom

maybe she was given an honorary green beret.


john wayne was an honorary marine

SSGMike.Ivy wrote:

JPW wrote:

This is BS...

Kate Wilder (Virginia)
Veteran, Female Green Beret

I was understanding that no females can be in combat  or SF.

how is this person a SF soldier?

Maybe you should have looked her up before running away once again.

Kate served our country with distinction, retiring from the U.S. Army as a Lieutenant Colonel and settling down in Northern Virginia.
While in the Army, Kate broke down barriers, overcame abuse and harrassment to become the first woman Green Beret in Army history. Just to put this in perspective, President Kennedy once said "the green beret is a symbol of excellence, a badge of courage, and a mark of distiction in the fight for freedom

Mike, Maybe you ought to read what Actual SF people say and know about her.   

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/for … ate+Wilder

If you think she is 100% real deal snake eater.............  I still have that bridge I would like to sale.

JPW wrote:

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12337


you beat me to it.

I hope I get a really cool door prize.  That site is the Number 1 information of the SF. Those guys are exceedingly sharp.  Also a really good group gather there.

JPW wrote:

so I'm bad mouthing a liberal think tank for questioning a poser and fake...yet in another post I m charged with being a liberal hilary fan.

us indenpendants can't win.


Hollis,  come on down  and I'll buy you a sweat tea.

No kidding,  election time is nearing..............  Run for the bunkers and hide, the scat is flying at a greater rate than even, and it will only get worser as Nov 2008 nears.

I like unsweat better,   or "special" sweatener.    Sure, be right down.

Hollis wrote:

I still have that bridge I would like to sale.

I own a bridge already here in NYC, since Bush took over I can not afford another one. Can you offer subprime rates, then maybe I may consider it.

k8wilder wrote:

I'm Lt Colonel Kate Wilder, and just to set the record straight, I spent four years in Special Forces, two of them in the 5th Special Forces Group.  I did indeed attend and graduate from the Special Forces Officer Course (SFOC) in 1980 and am the only woman to have done so.  I was awarded the 5G Additional Skill Identifier and I have a diploma from the Special Forces School dated 21 August 1980 (the ASI of 5G was awarded to officers who graduated from SFOC in the days before Special Forces was made into a separate branch).

You should do your research before making accusations about facts being 'BS'.

I am really clueless on how SF works,  Were you ever on a team, ever deployed?  Some have mentioned in the past, that not all Green Berets are the same (clerical, support, etc?  Again I don't know).  I tend to follow The Quiet Professional on this.   I have no way of knowing anything about any claims to being a Green Beret.  If the OPs that I read,  link was posted, are concern, that is good enough for me.  I am not a Green Beret, so it is not really for me to comment one way or another.  IF you read all the post, those commenting did not know how it all worked and went to a site that did. 

I only get concern about my branch of service.  Even then, I am pretty clueless to it today.

JPW wrote:

SSGMike.Ivy wrote:

JPW wrote:

This is BS...

Kate Wilder (Virginia)
Veteran, Female Green Beret

I was understanding that no females can be in combat  or SF.

how is this person a SF soldier?

Maybe you should have looked her up before running away once again.

Kate served our country with distinction, retiring from the U.S. Army as a Lieutenant Colonel and settling down in Northern Virginia.
While in the Army, Kate broke down barriers, overcame abuse and harrassment to become the first woman Green Beret in Army history. Just to put this in perspective, President Kennedy once said "the green beret is a symbol of excellence, a badge of courage, and a mark of distiction in the fight for freedom

maybe she is lying...No one every lied about their service


women have never been allowed in combat MOS and positions...


Show me a statement from the US Army saying she is authorized to wear the green beret and I'll believe it.  until then I have to go with my gut...


on second thought wasn't there that girl who was a SEAL?  oh that was a movie...my bad


ps I did look her up on the net...no offical records to say one woman was allowed to violate Army policy

JPW she was'nt a Seal she was a Murmaid, Silly.

LOL

You asked how I found this site.  I have a Google Alert for my name, and anytime someone posts something about me, I get an alert.  I've been doing this ever since some people who know nothing about me or my SF experience started discussing me on a discussion forum on another site last summer.  I was shocked to read the lies that were being posted, and by people who had never met me or were never in any position to know my story.  I let too much of that go by, and I've decided that, even though I don't want to blog, I have to jump in and set the record straight.  I'm doing so for the first time, and on your site. 

Here's the thumbnail sketch of my story: I was the Assistant S2 for the 5th SF Group, and later was in the 801st MI Det of the 5th Group.  I was occupying duty positions that were coded male/female interchangeable.  Women could be at Group level or in the separate companies attached to SF Groups, like the MI Det, or Signal Det, but couldn't go lower than that (Battalion or lower). 

My position was also coded for SF qualification, meaning that if I had been a male I would have to be SF qualified first (i.e., be a graduate of the SF course), but since I was a female I wasn't allowed to go to the course.  It was a 'Catch-22' of sorts.

I applied to attend the Special Forces Officer Course several times and was turned down by the school.  I later re-applied and this time sent my application to DA with the argument that if the army is allowing me to fill a job which it expects me to have knowledge in SF operations, then it is encumbent upon the army to properly school-train me in order to do my job.  Seems logical enough, right?  DA agreed, and I was placed on orders to attend the SF class in the summer of 1980 (keep in mind that all I wanted was a slot in an army school....I wasn't asking to be put on an A-team).

DA put me on orders to attend the SFOC class of the summer of 1980.  And then all hell broke loose.

For any more details, you'll just have to wait until the book comes out. 

But, yes it's true that I am an bona fide graduate of the SF course and have the ASI of 5G and the diploma to prove it.  And I am the only woman who was authorized to wear the SF tab on my uniform, which I did until I retired in 2003.

Doug, those are some interesting questions.   I am sort of bullet shy from last election.  Like recently here on the forum, the statement was,  "A Vet should not bash another Vet, and then those Vets bash another Vet,  GW Bush.  This was really terrible last election.   Kerry, whose anti military statements are well known when he was in Vets against the War, all of a sudden is now "reporting for duty" and touting his 3 PHs and Silver Star. The Uber Vet Vs the Under Vet.

On face value that is impressive, a Silver Star.   Then the story unfolds.............  and add to that the story unfolds on his PHs. 

I get tired of the partisan way of life,  "it ain't a lie when we say it"....  It would be great to be able to accept people on face value.  Even now the vets against the war, has had poster anti-war vets who turned out to be imposter's.